Thursday, 25 April 2019

Edgcote 1469

I have been reading 'The Battle of Edgecote 1469' by Graham Evans, who you may be familiar with as the man behind 'Wargaming for Grown-ups', on which he features a whole range of stuff, from Ancient Assyrians (with plenty of chariots) right through to the Spanish Civil War. He makes wide use of 20mm plastic in his games, which is obviously a good thing. He is the secretary of the Northamptonshire Battlefields Society and they are the publishers of this book. You may have possibly, as I have a couple of times, had a go at his clever participation game of the Battle of Northampton which he regularly takes to conventions. And on top of all that he rocks the bald head and glasses look, which I always think is de rigeur for a distinguished wargames blogger.

The book is subtitled 'Re-evaluating the evidence' and that's what he does, explaining how he comes to his conclusions and how much conjecture is involved. He also reproduces a fair number of his sources including some fifteenth century Welsh poetry. As with pretty much all Wars of the Roses battles there is uncertainty about where it was fought and why some of those in the vicinity took themselves off rather than join in as they were expected to, and the author's conclusions are persuasively argued. He also clears up an issue that I previously had no idea was even up for debate, namely the date the battle took place. He makes a good case that it was on the 24th July, two days earlier than traditionally believed, and driven by the new chronology puts forward a plausible narrative for the period either side: from the skirmish as the vanguards met until Edward IV was arrested in his bed by the Archbishop of York. I think it's fair to say that he is agnostic as to the identity of Robin of Redesdale, the leader - assuming he existed in the first place - of the rebel forces on the day. I rather liked the option he explores of it being a sort of pseudonym for the collective leadership; reminiscent of the P O'Neill who always communicated on behalf of the Provisional IRA.

Anyone who has read his blog will know, Evans has a minor bee in his bonnet about the Battle of Towton not having been the largest and bloodiest battle in England after all, and he manages to inveigle that in here as well. However, unless one is strongly invested in the generally accepted view I don't think it makes much difference and I certainly agree with his overall point that these battles really cannot have involved as many men on either side as the chroniclers suggest. To quote from the book: "The willingness to accept that armies larger than the population of London marched and fought in a small area of the East Midlands should give us all pause for thought.".

Overall, it's an interesting and enlightening read which I thoroughly recommend to those keen on the period. Edgcote may well be creeping up the list of games to be played in the annexe. Most importantly I have just the figure to represent the Barmaid of Banbury:



If you want to know what role - or indeed roll - the barmaid performed then you'll need to read the book yourself, although here's a clue:

Arglwfdd difwynswydd Defnsir
A ffoes - ni chafas oes hir!

4 comments:

  1. Thanks for the review. Book awaiting its turn on the reading table.

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  2. Thanks for the kind review. Just to clear things up I think "Robin of Redesdale" was probably just Bill the Thatcher or similar. I'm going for Pulp, in other words (you need to read the book again if this makes no sense). Are you thinking of coming to the Conference? (https://northantsbattles.com/edgcote-conference-2019/).

    As for Towton, tell me honestly, do you think it is a bigger battle than Marston Moor? (Note I am prepared to accept, possibly, that Towton saw more casualties than other battles in England, I just don't think the armies consisted of such a big proportion of the male population of England).

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    1. No problem, it's a good book.

      When it comes to Towton/Marston Moor I don't really have a dog in the fight. Considering how close I live to both sites the fact that I have never visited either is shameful. When faced with a question like whether Towton was as big as claimed I always reach for Occam's Razor: does it require more assumptions to believe it was than to believe it wasn't. I think asking oneself that question inevitably leads to exactly the point you make; surely it is inconceivable that such a large proportion of the men in the country were there as would be necessary to reach the numbers usually bandied about.

      I shall take a look at the details of the conference. I note that there are re-enactors; will they include the barmaid?

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    2. Alas there will be no barmaid. There's lunch and refreshments but no bar to keep her occupied.

      I think that Towton, like most WotR battles could do with a proper drains up on the evidence on a topic by topic basis, but it really falls outside the remit of the Northamptonshire Society.

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